well i have an angel deck and i think this will be the set just for me!!

It sure looks like it!

So long as my zombies still gets some umph I won't dislike this set too much

i got an aggresive huamn/ removal deck. this set will definetly bump it up considerably

Black/White Avacyn! Please oh please!

I run a sliver deck so I think I'll rule the world from now on!!!

Well right now Mono White is terrible in standard so hopefully this set will give it more of an 'edge'. Oh and my EDH General, Kaalia, likes what she sees.    ^.^

hopefully this set will be like judgement and i will like all of the cards

really white right now has the best aggro and control out there, blue comes in close second, then black

Yes but, monowhite still sticks in the "weenie" creature category, except for a few standard angels.  This set is all about monsters and bigness, all your numbers really do count for nothing if someone else has 6 5/5s + hellrider

you sir. are an idiot who doesn't know what the metagame is like. Maybe at your local FNM you keep getting beat down by chumps who through together jank decks against your terrible playing and deck building/netdecking. Have a look at the PT and GP results from the last month.. last i checked UW haunted humans, RG aggro, RG wolfrun ravager and UW delver variants all run small efficient creatures. and these are all decks that see a ton of play. RG ravager is the only one in that list that runs a 6/6 as primeval titan.. and UB control uses sphinx and grave titan/wurmcoil as their finishers as a 2-3 off... 

so i bid you to learn to play the game before you claim "what is the best deck" without understanding the meta..

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I'd be much happier with a red blue ral zarrek or dak faden.

Hope they print Kiora Utua and reprint QUEST FOR ULA'S TEMPLE =D

ral zerrek wont come till the next block

anybody knows wich planeswalker(s) will come out?

I hate the fact that their are no werewolves in this set but at least my other decks will get a boast, especialy my black/white human deck.

I was also hoping grislbrand would kill Avacyn, but alas we can't always have what we want.

love the avacyn going to be great for the black white heatless summoning variation. indestructible all the way!!

so, like, it dies to o ring? or fiend hunter? or lily? or geth's verdict? or vapor snag? or disperse? or manaleak? or inkmoth (with wolf run)? or traitorous blood? or karn? or black sun? or phyrexian crusader? or nevermore? or phyrexian revoker? or tribute to hunger? and thats just in standard? okay, just checking.

or metamorph? or phantasmal image? or frost titan? or aether adept? or archon of justice?

So do 99.99% of all creatures out there. Whats your point? How many other creatures give themselves AND ALL OTHER PERMANENTS you control indestructibility?

aaww come on it's not that bad there is still some good use for it. and there are ways to destroy every card in standard, indestructible is just supposed to make it more difficult to do. I could see it having some success in esper heartless and it has good synergy with day of justice. personally i think it coud have been worse.

congratulations to frites

They say avacyn is mono white

You knew the knew double face human/werewolf token makes me think that werewolves will get some kind of creature that make more werewolves if certain conditions are met.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/M...

Phyrexian revoker does nothing so please try again...

It wouldn't be Avacyn RESTORED with her dead, would it? :P

i call it right now cycling is coming back!

does anyone think that they could be possibly re printing lord of the undead? to kinda help black zombies? if they do then ill be very very very happy. plus my zombie deck is screaming to become standard hehe ;)

That was before I found out what the set was called, I obviously know that she's not gonna die... but thanks for pointing out the obvious :)

While I agree with, I must say that you need to calm down. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and dude might have been referring to people in his own area. So understand the contexts of his statement before flying off the handle... just saying  

 I'd like to know how either of UW haunted humans and UW delber variants, the only two that you listed that have White in them are monowhite like he was talking about...

You, sir, need to calm your tits. it's just a card game. just sayin lol.

Don't get me wrong, I"m just getting back into magic after stopping in the Urza's Saga set. however, my friend has a killer mono white deck consisting of a few weeny creatures, a whole lot of healing cards and chalice of life /death. holds everyone off by blocking / negating combat damage and gaining life, in about 4-5 turns she can have a chalice of death flipped and take you out in 4 turns... that is unless she gets her other 3 out in time... then even less. just saying, yes, it utilizes an artifact for the killing, but even with a couple artifacts in it it is still a kick butt mono white. 

that derp its a crazy virgin!!!
jajajaja

you need to get some help.... derp

so it looks like birthing pod is getting buffed... ima go /cry

Hilarious thing happened o me during a fnm. We were discussing the spoilers and someone called Avacyn: Avacy, Angel of Hope I Don't Slip. LOL!

only in standard because it runs a ridiculous ammounts of creature removal , some actual pro players talked about using Avacyn on vintage with Oath of Druids package to protect the combo so for the dumbasses that say it will never see play and are wannabe pro mtg all starts , get a effing life

he said mono. white is best if splashed with blue or black, not alone. its close, but the best mono color is blue with delver/invisible stalker/pike. trust me- i have both. 

IT IS NOOOOOOOTTTT!!!!!

they aren't.. that's what he's saying.

what about tempered steel?

 Next block is Return to Ravinica . . .

Either Dack, Ral, Kiora, or what is most likely, some moonfolk we have never seen.

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best colors are white and black now with these new cards

Thank you, Mark.

Not yet! Too soon!

Wait until the next block...
Better block to come back to.

You stop that.

not really. the set brings a ton of big creatures to play but has no way to fuel them. I'd say either blue or red have gotten the best cards so far especially since red has been deprived these past few sets of anything extreemly awsome. the white has some deck material but nothing that is new and black has a ton of saccrificial stuff but no way to fuel it. on the otherhand blue got an awsome planeswalker that might have good synergy with gideon jura in a tap control version. A sort of way to abuse both -2 abilities. And red got two nice cards as good fuel for RDW in only the first 2 cards they released.

 i want some vamps

now looking at Revenge of the Hunted i'd say green got more than black or white too.

Before you criticize someone else about not knowing the metagame pay attention yourself. 
Delver decks use small creatures true, but a delver deck that doesnt get out the equipment/Geist for the buff ofter doesn't win.
RG aggro often runs titans
Wolf Run Ravager uses kessig to make thing into enormous tramplers.
Most control decks run consecrated sphinx or some other beefy finisher.
Frites is reanimate big creature, usually Elesh Norn, quickly
Naya Pod abuses versatility of pod to answer threats and get out big creatures
Solar Flare is pull out 5 sun titans in one turn to overwhelm your opponents
Most zombie decks use an odd combination of power, persistence, and numbers, but a lot use Phyrexian Obliterator.
Wolf Run Ramp is all about getting titans asap

In the current metagame only BW tokens, Lingering Spirits, and Haunted Humans use numbers of efficient creatures to win.
Tokens are super efficient, but humans are so meh. The point is the metagame primarily is big creatures or making evasive creatures big.  Dont put down someone else without doing a bit of research. btw every deck I listed is in the top 11 most frequent decks in the Top 8 of tournaments.  Granted Haunted Humans is second most common Delver is still more so.

I wish I could edit that oh well
*often
*tokens arent the most efficient cards, but humans are so meh

was this in reference to derp? or my reply to the guest?

Those angels look sexy. :3 Esp the one green/white one.

Seriously, people like you make the game not fun. It's supposed to be a game for fun.

are there no new spoilers today?

I want more vamps as well, and I'm glad red is finally getting some love.

I hate Slivers.

They're seriously considering an angel tribal. How 'bout this. W/G angels and werewolves. Werewolves for early game until you can get Herald of War out, use Gavony Township, then you can start putting all of your creatures out onto the board, and swing for game.

sounds good but the balance of the deck would be akward. it take alot of werewolf specific cards for them to maintain control of the board. things like full moons rise and moonmist and the actual werewolves themselves. this doesn't leave much room for that angels of the deck. but if  you can find a good balance then it could be a thought. also if you are looking for quickramping Herald of war use increasing savagery not gavony township. same cost bigger effect.

also if you are planning on having the werewolves maintain control of  the board you should run duids reposity too. helps for later game casting and a good way to save up for those bigger finishers.

It is my mission in life to destroy all sliver decks! And I do so with my B/W knights!!!

 @ Rabbit. What format are you talking about? MWC has not been good since Onslaught lol. R/G Aggro is much better than ww right now in any format. White just isnt that good anymore unless you pair it with something else. U/W Control Good! Zoo Aggro good! W/G or W/B Tokens Good! Mono White ehhh its ok.

As far as standard goes mono white is bad but as a color has more staples and is one of the best splash or second colors hands down, example elish oring, midnight haunting, timely, lingering souls, and many more. Yes R/G ravenger is great but its splash color is many white for elish and afew others. So to say white is the worst is completely wrong. Most mono color decks sta.d no chance. I'm sry that wizards learn their lesson when they print cards like stone forge mistic and let two colors run the format for year and half.

k so ive been reading alot of these comments and u guys say that mono white agrro sucks well technically it doesnt there are great decks like humans that dont need blue to be good ive seen amazing mono white decks out there so everyone just chill out

You have my support in this. God damn slivers.

no the problem is not the white human stratagy and board method. white humans can set a presence pretty quickly and they have some removal to help with that. the problem is the antimeta. all wolf runs run a slagstorm or 4. There is just no way for white huumans to respond effectively to this without bllue to aid countering the backbreaking spell. that is why mono whit can succede. it's not that it isn't good at what it does and without things like slagstorm or whipflare i'm sure it would see some more competitive play but it won't cause they do. but as soon as the scars block rotaits then it could see a brighter future for them. 

ugh i hate that you  can't edit:
Mono white* can't* succede
I* could see a brighter future for them

I believe that if you register an account with Disqus you will have the ability to edit your posts.

I FEEL kinda ehhhhh about this set... wtf is the point to exiling then returning creatures?

?????????????? maybe there are cards that do stuff once ur creatures get exiled???????????????? i miss my slivers....but someday they will return!

plus omg  white blues gunna be DEVASTATING now.

You can save a creature your opponent tries to remove, or you can trigger any 'Enter the Battlefield' effects a second time. Its actually pretty useful!

You can also remove all -1/-1 tokens from the creature or, if used on a creature with undying, can be used to extend their life considerably.

what card will let you rule the world with your sliver deck???

Any mono deck is bad in standard right now almost every good deck employs at least two colors so the argument that monowhite is bad is moot because mono every color is bad

WE NEED legendary Werewolf and Legendary Human!!!, since Spirit and Zombie has their own. Please please...

I dont get it, so with avacyn, angel of hope you just basically win any prerelease game.. right?

Descendant's Path I think he is referring too.

yea theres some crazy stuff for kalia especially kalia into avacyn

no there is till exile cards in standard, as for the prerelease draft banishing stoke and a couple other cards will likely be able to deal with it's indistructibility. besides if their good players and you're not playing ramp you'll likely never get to cast her for her eight cost.

 Or you can turn any 'gain control of ... until end of turn' effects into 'return them to the battlefield under your control' (permanently) effects. 

 Oh, and the intended block synergy is probably to move soulbond around like a silly person.  That and block + blink is always a classy way to avoid having to actually deal with combat threats. 

 silvers? really? im sorry for you

You guys are right, and that's why it's a deck idea: it can be improved upon. I think I might try for this build and post the results later when the set's actually out. I've been running the W/U spirit delver with some modifications, and I think this is a good substitute once I work out the kinks(hehe... kinks...). While the delver deck is pretty awesome, I'd like to try something a bit different and be a bit off the wall with my deck this time around.

I don't know. After seeing Miracle, I'd actually think they'd bring back Madness or Hellbent, but that's just my opinion.

Right now mono black is kicking ass in standard, not everything is bad because of mono

Wait wait wait. Just realize that if the W/G angel and Avacyn are on the field at the same time, wouldn't the only way to get rid of either on is to have that player sacrifice or Phyrexian Obliterator on the attack if they don't have anything else to sack?

So, knowing about previous abilities cards have had in the past with color combinations, the next land to come out will be W/G, but I'm stumped as to the abilities it will grant. Trample/Lifelink? Trample/Vigilance? Not sure what it'll do.

im new to the game ish and play a black and blue zombie deck but im thinking of swapping my blue for green.Craterhoof Behemoth + army of the damned would be a sweet finisher imo and with Druids' Repository it shouldn't be that hard to bring out. 13  15/15 zombie tokens with trample would be damn near impossible to deal with. so my question is should i stick with black and blue or switch to black and green OR keep some blue in there and some green

Wow, you suck at life.

 Pick the one that makes more fun.  Do you want that small chance of an explosive turn, or the more steady creepy rise of the zombies for a more consistent game?  There are a lot of options to consider other than just one card combination for color selection, but ultimately, you're trying to make a 'fun' deck it sounds like, so there really aren't any bad choices. 

I play white and usually beat my friends within five or six turns with my mono white aggro human deck. 

well green seems to be getting alot of cool cards right now but personally i would stick to the blue black. going too far off the theme can cause the deck to become unbalanced. there are some really cool things for blue black like phyrexian obliterator and phantasmal image. wait to see what else pops up before starting to make your decisions. and just make sure the deck fits the way you awant to play. you can also try the deck out on cockatrice or something to be sure you like the way it works. 

I quit playing M:tG a while ago, pretty sure with this set, I will be back. Limited would be a blast. Not seeing anything that's just straight garbage. I would say that most of the rares and mythics would be worth a first pick. Nice change from any sets in the past 5+ years where half the rares were just garbage.

hey those new cards are really awesome xd i know spanish and i understand all of them xd

 I don't know Spanish and I understand 99% of them.  =P

I like trains... There should be train cards.

Bruna will just be stupid in a commander deck with Eldrazi Conscription

 You're a dick dude.

the devilos just became viable with the new 4/3 for 1 or have some one take 4 damage thats sick as hell. i like that with hell rider curse breaker to for big finis getting back some instants and sorceries like lighting bolt or what ever else you may want. and tibalt to just keep drawing out till you find a hell rider thats even sicker

 not all of us can afford the GP OR THE PTQ's man but im with you look at starcity games for some of the greatest decks around they host every kind of tourney out their and post the top 8 decks of the month or year if its a good enough one. but yes please this game is for a lot of fun for some to get out with friends or to have several hours away form their kids or spouse. i use magic as away to avoid other addiction s like drugs so im in it to have fun

Casters Arch(?)

At the begininng of your end step you may exile target creature you control then return that creature to play under your control

Could definitely abuse that..

That basically turns threaten effects (gain control of x until end of turn) into permanent control effects (since the arch's permanent return to battlefield under your control overrides the 'end of turn' effect of the threatens).  Nutty.

psh kaalia is in my deck I run 5 color angel I also like what I see commander is atogatog!!

Sever The Bloodline??

whats magic?

There seems to be a lot of love for Green/White my two favorite colors! I can't wait to pair up champion of parish and Champion of Lampholt and watch the counter fly as I spam human tokens lol!

i cant believe they made the exact opposite of sanguine bond...
so with both in play if you gain a life or opponent loses a life, its instant win
what was wizards thinking? itll be the most popular combo be they end of the week they release it...

its called exquisite blood

woohoo, spoilers!

The "metagame" refers to a competitive stanpoint. the metagame for someones LGS does not have to be the metagame for the national level.

where are my werewolf's?

WOW the Angels cost so much better W/ green for mana ramping fast
Cant Wait tell the new set

Hell, that hellrider alone + weenies and a shrine of burning rage is all you need. Mono red. all day.

mono white isnt terrible are you kidding, its made first place at several events recently and to the comment below, blue is the strongest color right now seeing as how delver decks reign supreme

I went 3-2 in my Local FNM tournament. But i will agree most of the best decks are running at least 2 colours. I'm trying a Curious Hellrider Build this Friday. 

Yeah like everyone said dude no need to get all angry over someones comment it is just a game at the end of the day. I think people like big creatures simply for the fact there powerful everyone has there way of playing that is satisfying to them. i personally use a WU myr deck but i sure do love my power decks to nothing is more satisfying to put a game changing creature on the field. And just because someone isn't good at something ie: FNM or even making a deck from scratch dosn't mean there a bad player. i lose all the time at FNM but im fine with that cuz the purpose of FNM is to meet people who have the same passion for mtg as you. plus you get to trade for cool cards. not to mention my best decks are home grown through experimentation and losing as edison said "Genius is once percent inspiration and ninety nine percent perspiration." 

Am I the only  person that sees the misprint zombie? undying is supposed to give a -1/-1 counter not a +1/+1 WTF?

 Only if they misprinted every single card that has undying on it...

I see a lot of boros play.

mmmh so...no werewolves?
ok, the vampires are also not good at all, but absolutely NO werewolves? True that the dark ascension and innistrad cards empower wolves and werewolves but...so we don't get a werewolf deck either...
at least i can get some great stuff for my W/G angel deck

theyre there. Just has wolf warriors. lol

For the Love of Urza MTG Has broken every standard deck i have with this new set and giving me the ability to build my legions Angel deck in standard Wizards i now luve u

 no way white aggro into the angel from innastrad with white humans and its a godly field yes splashing blue into white is nice but mon white spirit and human decks are fun with honor of the pure and theb ig angel

I'm kind of sad that they went no where with the Wolfir idea. Sure they have two Wolfir cards, but really, ONLY two cards that are ONLY in green when werewolves were originally Green AND Red? What, did Avacyn accidentally kill more then 3/4ths of the werewolf population when she cast her Cursemute spell? Their are simply not enough cards to make a wolfir deck, which I was looking forward to. All they are are two completely random cards, that might not even see play because of their randomness.

Wolfir Avenger => He's decent, but his colors are off a bit. Green doesn't really need flash as much as other colors would, because they really don't have 'Answer' cards as other colors might have. Regenerate is always nice on a Green card, and 3/3 for 3 is really good, but I feel like there are better cards for Mono-Green at 3 mana, maybe other colors like GU.. but it just doesn't feel right.

Wolfir Silverheart => Sure, it's 12 power for 6 mana under the right conditions, but I've been hurt far to many times relying on having more then one creature on the field to rely on effects. Everyone I play against either makes sure that they have some way to remove all the choices on the field, or somehow get ride of him before he can soulbond. In games I played with him proxied, he was always 6 mana for a dead 4/4 or something happened to him before he could kick off.

By the way, did I mention that these were the ONLY two wolfir cards that came out? And their not even wolfir, their WOLVES, meaning that the creatures wanted us to splash them into wolf decks, without giving a second thought to "Hey, what if we wanted to make a complete wolfir deck?" I feel as ripped off as I was when they refused to make a legendary werewolf. SEVERAL times we were promised a Legendary werewolf, and several times we were denied. The only Mythic Rare that we got, was a complete rip off, that didn't even work in a werewolf deck! IT WAS MADE FOR WOLFRUN RAMP!

I'm excited that Innistrad came out, I liked the fall into darkness, heck I even liked the return of Avacyn. But their was so much flavor that they COMPLETELY left out. It seems like they added werewolves just to tease players like me, who WANTED to play them competitively, but the ONLY option we had was to get Lucky as |=|_|(|< with a 5 turn Arc, that might not even work if they have a way to stop it, which several "meta" decks did WITHOUT sideboarding, or run Wolfrun Ramp with ONE werewolf card.

And then they completely remove werewolves and add Wolfir... oh, which by the way, their are only two of... absolutely destroying the flavor I so loved and without even building upon it. TWO CARDS are NOT enough to explain the transformation of practically an ENTIRE race of beings. Way to go for destroying my hopes for GOOD wolves, once again.

Everything else seems decent though... Might end up splashing red into my Competitive Innistrad Token deck for this. Get ride of my Break of Day for Rally the Peasants (yeah, more flashback!) and add the NEW token production WITH HASTE! Geist Honored Monk is going to enjoy her +3/+3 with Three 2/2's and two or more 3/3 flyers. Haha, 7/7 and three 2/2's on the ground, and 2+ 3/3's in the air...

I just wish my wolves weren't completely ignored.

Completely depressed to see how many broken mechanics are on the way, and on top of that the flip cards are completely gone, as are werewolves. My deck has just become pointless and half worthless.

Haha, PLEASE tell me your joking. Dark Ascensions made Werewolves WEAKER in human form, with No benefit what so ever. The ONLY "good" werewolf was the Mythic Rare, and that wasn't even made for a werewolf deck! It was made for Kassig Wolf Run decks and other such decks that werewolves DON'T use because their focused on staying wolf, not transforming willy nilly....

Werewolves were denied power, Vampires don't need power... Everything BUT wolves and werewolves were made correctly by Acacyn restored. Seriously, I am disapointed with my Standard wolf/werewolf deck... because it gets beaten by everyone every time unless I pull the "turn 5 three card combo"...

red's getting mad love. it is AWESOME. 

At least red has a few excellent burn cards on the way. 

red white edh here i come

The Pre release of this set is going to be awesome... :D

Commander's Authority is such a pretty card

 blue white spirits not seeing some love

That's because you're a baddy.

its official they hate zombies

 I agree I am starting to like red getting some love

balls

great cards incuding tabalt but not the best suite for me

fat large amount

^Everything this man said and more. Someone put their try-hard pants on before they wrote that, I can tell you.

I am a vintage player, i dont buy cards often enough to play standard. In my opinion, i thought some of the white weenies looked pretty solid, but like i said i dont play standard so i dont really know the meta for the standard game, however the whole of innistrad sux for vintage :p, with exception to that black enchantment that lets you gain life when your opponents lose life, im thinking sanguine bond here people.

 I see beast ass combos for all colors, I see my Angels got some lovin and it is great to see humans getting some more substance. Getting my F/P, I/S, and M/I decks geared up, always glad to see new Artifacts but they did not get as much love as they should have this set. All in all that $99 box looks very appealing to get a 540 chance of epicness.